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  • ghost
    08-11 11:46 AM
    You put it out well from your side.
    BTW, are you really 2007 EB3 I? Do you have a guesstimate on when you would get GC?:rolleyes:

    Folks,

    In our legal immigrant community, we have the following Groups (G) of people:

    G1) Handful of leaders - folks who clearly understand that only legislative fixes and administrative fixes can provide realistic help
    G2) Dozens of volunteers - who are willing to take that extra step and contribute time and effort for the sake of others
    G3) Hundreds of donors, both regular or one-time - who trust IV leadership and commit to the cause without any qualms whatsoever
    G4) Thousands of members - who try to understand the issues we are facing but do not have a realistic assessment of how bad things are
    G5) Many more - who either are not bothered by this wait or who simply gave up on this process and became dormant of some sorts of their career


    While the predictions thread provided some clarity and entertainment for EB2 folks, this September 2010 bulletin is a blessing in disguise for all of us.

    Current state of our Members (M):
    M1) We have recently greened EB2 folks (2005-2006 EB2 folks), who have a fresh memory of the painful wait
    M2) We have folks who relied on predictions (May 2006 - Jul 2007 EB2 folks), who must be frustrated and disappointed with today's bulletin
    M3) We have folks who were looking forward to Jul-Sep 2011 (Aug 2007 - Dec 2008 EB2 folks), who now realize that their wait is even longer than assumed
    M4) We have EB-3 folks waiting forever and feeling that they are being neglected in IV advocacy efforts


    Folks who are in M2/M3/M4 state above should take some time and contemplate the options they have between now and Sep 2011.

    I can see three Options (O):

    O1) "Wait and Watch" option:
    This applies to folks who are either close to the PD being current or folks who are on EADs or folks who are happy with their current career state

    O2) "You are on your own" option:
    EB-3 folks - can try find a job where the employer is ready to start their EB-2 GC process within the next 6 months (make sure your current GC application has an approved 140)
    EB-2 folks - can try find a job where the employer is ready to start their EB-1 GC process

    O3) "We are in this together" option
    All EB-2 and EB-3 folks sign up for a concerted effort where IV leadership is in the driver's seat.

    Each one of us should be able to relate to one combination of Group/Member/Option (GMOs) from the above list. Personally I'm G3M3O3, what are you?





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  • Karthikthiru
    06-10 03:55 PM
    Done. Just did it





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  • rajuram
    11-13 12:17 AM
    Very good ideas (if some one in the core is listening...). When approaching Zoe, we just have to let her office know that by speeding up GC approvals, they will help the poor housing market. Trust me, they will listen.





    We should do something like this ..

    I hear Pelosi is asking for Lameduck session next week. Also heard somewhere that in order to start Lameduck session on any monday they need to send invitation to lawmakers by mid of week earliar than that monday. Haven't read so far that they will do lameduck for sure.

    Pelosi is relying on Bush to give assurance that he will sign bailout for auto makers.

    Anyway.. in any case if there will be session in Nov then we should see solid news 3-4 days before it. Once we get confirmed news about Lameduck session

    (1) Senior members or Admins can contact Zoe's Office and find out if she is willing to push for HR 5882. If she says no and wait for some time then we can go to media awareness route and wait for some time.

    (2) If she agrees I will make a list of all members of Judiciary committee whom we can start calling.

    (3) Also we can have list of member of house and senate whom we can call.

    (4) Meanwhile we will start a new funding drive along with call campaign. People will be motivated to donate if they see some movement. If we ask for money right now even 1 or 5 USD no one will donate it but once they see some movement people starts giving money.

    (5) IV core team can ask support from competeamerica and other group.

    (6) Other members who are in media industry can make awareness in media about our case with housing crisis.





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  • ujayra01
    03-17 10:41 AM
    EB3-India
    PD: Dec 2003
    EAD-AP approved, FP done



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  • GCAmigo
    03-09 01:28 PM
    9 years and counting.

    Came here on H1 in early'99.. stopped counting and it doesn't hurt much now!

    ~GCA





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  • sc09876
    07-29 01:46 PM
    @uma001
    I understand your situation because you had posted elsewhere on exactly what happened to you.

    Premise of the Green Card (and H1-B for that matter) is that an American citizen or a Permanent resident was not available with required skill sets for the work to be done.

    Scrutiny at H1-B was traditionally a lot relaxed because it is temporary in nature by definition. A lot us seem to assume that Green Card is a natural progression from H1-B. In Employment Based GC, burden of proof lies with the organizations. I have worked with small and big organizations, and I am yet to come across an organization that will go out of the way or makes exceptions to an employee at the risk of its reputation or facing legal hassles.

    When I had a choice to make may be 5 years back, a friend of mine advised me. If you have GC, big corporations can employ you easily, but if the big corporations employ you, it is not easy to get GC. (particularly because the HR would not be so easily accessible, but "control" is what he was alluding to.)

    I took his advise, and landed a "desi" company, which was not so "desi" in its thought process and treatment though. They were flexible, at the same time, great to work with, paid very well and took care of expenses at actuals. I was lucky enough to have landed where I had.

    One has to know very well, what one wants to do and where one one wants to head. If the over-riding factor is a GC application, find out where you get the flexibility. On the other hand, if an over riding factor is a satisfaction to work with big name companies, then you know how it works. No point blaming companies.



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  • 3d Nirvana
    03-07 06:31 PM
    sry guys, i have to pull out. I have a big essay that has been assigned and i cant spend the time needed to make a good entry. sry!

    i'll make one later and just post it in showcase :)





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  • wam4wam
    02-17 07:39 AM
    i agree with retrohatao

    it is pretty much useless to fight for ending tetrogression when we know we are going to get stuck in name check for 2-3 years after that


    infact i am hoping and praying that the EB relief bill does not pass until my name check has been cleared...as i will not be able to use the available visa numbers .

    the name check issue is a big big problem.

    trust me...if we dont include it right now....2 years from now...all of us will be forming a new web site with Name check as the primary issue...:eek:



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  • ArkBird
    03-11 11:11 PM
    More like KLPD :)





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  • reddymjm
    09-10 12:38 PM
    EB2 I/C won't be current in the next 4-5 Years, the EB2 I/C demand till date (Today’s Date) is in the 100K - 120K Range. The EB2I/C demand till Jul/Aug 2007 is easily in the 40-45K Range so it will require a very over optimistic scenario to clear by Sep 2011. EB3 ROW will reach end of 2006 by FY 2011. So there is a very long way to go. All the movement is under many assumptions most important being the economy and unemployment, anytime this changes all spillover will collapse and there will really be no difference between EB2 I/C and EB3 I/C.

    where is this 120k EB2I and C coming up from, those who haven't filed 485 yet? So you are expecting another july 2007 making all EB2 Current.



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  • guy03062
    12-12 04:18 PM
    I read news on oh law firm few days back that USCIS is planning to abandon concurrent filing (I140 + I-485). So when USCIS has power to disallow that, then they may have power to allow file I-485 when visa not available. This is just my thought. Anyway it does not hurt to find it out from USCIS officials, rather than asking some lawyer or interpret our own.

    Also when we ask lawyer about this, we may not get positive response as they may fear of loosing fees of countless H1B visa transfers.





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  • gimme Green!!
    07-01 10:46 AM
    It is possible for every city to have at least one usps office to be open on Sunday. They have a different day off.

    Just go to the USPS website and locate an office that is open on Sun.

    I live in the Detroit area. I know atleast 2 postoffices that are open 24 hours.



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  • frodobaggins
    04-03 11:52 PM
    :mad:

    Hey imv116, how about the fact that it is totally unethical and illegal? How can you support this? I myself have done MS and have seen the effect of this ridiculous practice. I was very good and yet could not get any job because the market is flooded with false resumes. So employers think there are many experienced candidates and do not want freshers!!

    Also, just like others have mentioned, it undermines the quality and experience of the genuine people. I agree that students sometimes do not have a choice in the current scenario. But at the same time, many of them are just not good enough to get a job on their own merit. That is why they have no problem resorting to such shameful tactics.
    :mad:





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  • gcpain
    06-25 11:07 AM
    I was working with employer -A till 2006 and got I140 approved (June 2003 priority date) in EB3. In November 2006 I joined employer B as it is good for my carrier. I talk to employer A (body shopper) and he is ready to support for my green card as I worked for him for six long years and still he did not cancel my old H1B. My main aim here is to apply I485 as soon as I can.


    1. I have two options here my old employer (A) is body-shopper. So he will agree for both future or current employment. I have very good permanent job and bright future prospects with new employer (B). In this case what you guys advice me? Apply I485 as future employment or quit present job and join old employer (A) and apply I485 as current employment?

    2. If I do not join old employer (with whom I have I140 approved) now, in this case what are my options for I485 applying? (Only future employment I485/ I can file current employment I485 and not drawing any salary from old employer )

    3. Will I485 as future employment has any problems?

    4. Can I use AC21 after 180 days on my I485 future employment application?

    5. My new employer (B) already applied PERM LC for my GC in EB2 three months back and did not here anything from Atlanta DOL till now. What you guys advice me? Is it worthful to wait for this new EB2 LC or apply I485 as future employment with approved I140-EB3 with priority date June 2003.

    I am in really dilemma and unable to decide. Appreciate your advice in this matter. Thanks in advance to all your replies and wish you best of luck.



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  • dpp
    07-09 03:53 PM
    I dont think legally you can sue someone, because they have worked harder.
    I posted this link , so that everybody may know the legal reasons, which we can be presented in a court of law.

    If this lawsuit is accepted by the court , then the USCIS lawyers would tell what exactly happened.

    I till now personally believe , that the USCIS/DOS hasnt broken any law.
    They may have however changed a pettern,process , but no law has been broken.

    Everybody knows they didn't broke the law, but the way they followed is wrong.

    I saw somebody suing her company because her colleagues are using perfumes. If this kind of US, then why should we leave them for this disaster.

    What they broke is "They need to give prior notice in advance". They cannot give one-hour or one-min notice. They haven't given one-min notice also. It is outrageous. So, please don't say that they didn't broke any law.

    Do you know what does it mean by notice? It should be given well in advance if you want to convey something.

    They completely broke all those ethical laws.





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  • javadeveloper
    12-12 03:56 PM
    No one has answered my question yet - If we are so "highly skilled", why no one is listening to us in this country.

    They'll definitely listen , but It takes some time , may be 5,6 years

    They'll listen to you in 1 year if you have "extraordinary ability(EB1)"



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  • sanju
    04-04 03:01 PM
    The Durbin-Grassley bill would prohibit employers from hiring H-1B employees who are then outsourced to other companies. This is a method that some companies use to evade restrictions on hiring H-1Bs.

    http://durbin.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=271783

    Open your eyes and look clearly. This bill is designed to put an end to any competition for middle aged racist engineers afraid of competition from people who fit the profile of the membership of IV. Some members on the forum seem to think that this bill contain provisions to protect H-1b workers, but that is not true. This bill is designed to mean that current workers on H-1 are taking away American jobs as the protection proposed by the bill were not there when most of the forum members came on H1b. This bill was written by Ron Hira and IEEE. If nothing else then we need to understand that Ron Hira et al, are not in love with any of us. They represent middle aged racist engineers in US who are scared of competition and globalization. So please stop day dreaming and expecting that this bill would have anything to protect/benefit green card applicants. I understand/share the frustration with body-shoppers/consulting companies. Why whine about consulting companies and, work for them at the same time. If you are so good then why don't you switch jobs. Accenture, PWC, D&T, Bearing Point, Oracle consulting etc. also do consulting, what about them. Supporting this or any other bill from Sen. Grassley is suicidal. It’s acting like the 90% of ignorant Republican base, who earn less than 30K/yr and still support the party that oppose welfare reform and give tax breaks to the richest.

    Taking out frustration on consulting companies doesn’t help us. If the green card process would work in the intended manner, none of us will be beholden to the employer. And there will be no room for frustration. Any employer would take advantage of such loopholes in the process where employee is beholden to the employer. But the thing is, employers or consulting companies did not create the currently broken green card process, neither did they create the backlog. The lawmakers, who did not attend to the immigration system for more than a decade, are responsible for the current system. And organizations like IEEE are responsible for opposing any meaningful reform on H1B/green card issues. Now they are using the situation to their advantage by tainting a pictures if we all the people in US, waiting for their green cards, should not have been in US if the system proposed by the bill was in place. And it is astonishing to see people calling to support a bill wihtout knowing its contents. So why blame our problems on consulting companies? You think IEEE drafted this bill for people who match the profile of IV members? This bill was has been drafted with the objective to secure the position of middle aged racist engineers, who do not want to upgrade their skills and who are scared of young minds ready to compete and learn new things.





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  • fromnaija
    01-19 10:59 AM
    The following is a copy paste of the hopeless situation for many many of us, from the presentation paskal was referring to.

    Please add more facts, figures, numbers.

    There are around 147,000 employment based Visa number available every year.
    Each country in the world, irrespective of population, equally share from the same bucket for Visa Number.
    Total there are 100 (suppose) country in world. Each country will get 1470 Visa Number allocated / year.
    This 1470 will be divided between EB1, EB2 and EB3 category
    That means every category will get 490 Visa Number.
    USCIS statistics show each household has at least two member. So only 245 household from India in EB3 category will get GC in a year.
    Total GC application pending with USCIS is around 1MM.
    In simple you are in a funnel and if you don�t act now you will be in funnel for lifetime.

    There is only one thing wrong with this figure. Not all of the 100 countries will have immigrants in the EB category. The fact is that no one country can have more than 7% of the available visas i.e. 9800 of the available 140,000 EB visas per year.





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  • GCwaitforever
    12-27 02:08 AM
    I liked NW/KLM too. Absolutely no hassles. I hear that NY-Dubai non-stop flight through Emirates is also good, though it is slightly expensive.

    London - transit visa needed definitely for inter/intra-airport transfers.
    Paris - did not ask for transit visa last when I travelled.
    Frankfurt was approving transit visas within the airport for gate transfers last time I visited. Situation might have changed now.

    Has anybody travelled through Toronto-New Delhi through Air Canada? This would be a trip over the north pole during the Xmas :D





    ramus
    07-02 05:09 PM
    Please Contribute funds to Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44).

    Guys we need to start new fund drive to help core members with fund for advocacy efforts. I know every active member is working hard right now on at least one action item. Lets contribute and help IV with fund.


    Lets start with target of $5000 by 10 p.m.

    Lets see if we meet it.. We have more 2000 members online right now.

    Thanks in advance for all you can do..

    Immigration Voice encourages all members to help AILF/AILA's potential lawsuit by joining them as plaintiffs and contribute funds to Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44). We will actively help AILF or other organizations in this lawsuit to force USCIS/DOS to compensate for :

    1. Financial and other damages caused due to manipulation of Visa bulletins out of order.
    2. Violation of federal regulations and precedents.

    A victory in such a potential lawsuit could in effect may either force USCIS to accept the 485 petitions in July and accept the ones it may deny/return in July.

    The outcome of lawsuit cannot be guaranteed but USCIS and DOS are certainly facing a tough fight from us as well as from AILA and like minded organizations.

    Please contribute funds as Immigration Voice would need funds to finance an expensive lawsuit against USCIS/DOS should it decide to actively participate in a class action lawsuit.

    Update: Thank you everyone who has contributed since July 2 when we announced the drive. Our total contributions from paypal and google are around $2,500 till now (despite having 15 k members). As you can understand this is hardly of any significance for even a small legal effort. A big lawsuit is out of question. Thus IV core will use it for IV activities to further pursue its advocacy efforts. IV encourages its members being a plaintiffs with AILF if they so desire. If you are an IV member and also a plaintiff, you can let us know for any guidance we can provide. IV will be coming up with more direction to its members soon. We will have some plan for everyone and will need participation from everyone. Please stay tuned.





    nawlinspoboys
    09-28 09:39 AM
    Well said Akhil. Its all about personal choice. But if you ask me USA rocks! I have lived in 6 states (south, north, midwest) in my 9 years of stay in USA..Never had a single problem with racism. All my bosses were fair and nice.... Even my university people were very friendly and accomodated me in their culture without hesitation. I see more racism and discrimination in India. We discriminate "big time" against our own back there. Plus back in India we have political unrest, communal tensions, riots, strikes..lot of uncertainities. Lets live in USA with pe@ce and make good life...