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  • eb2_mumbai
    09-25 12:38 PM
    Anything with the legislative effort aka unused visa recapture will not happen in this political environment.
    My only question to the EB3I is,
    Do you want to wait until the visa recapture, when ever it happens or will it ever?. More-over this has been taken up by many people in this forum and fizzled. To add more, do you know what will happen when un-used visas are recaptured ? Will it benefit EB3I or will it be given to EB2 just like the spill over. Would you do something right now to atleast get some short term relief to EB3I ?

    I am here in this thread to understand what we can do for EB3I immediately. I presented an option when somebody asked in this thread. If you want to take it or leave it, its up to you to decide.

    nyte_crawler I gave u green because I really appreciate you keeping the argument civilized even though we both differ in our ideas. Now just to take things a little further. You have pointed me that I am arguing to keep spill over as it is (in favour of EB2) because that will help me. I would argue the same that when you say immediate help for EB3 I feel that is because that will help your case. Tell me how does it help Eb3 with PD 2004 and further. Rather it would be in their interest to cross port to EB2 since they directly become current rather than wait for spill over to reach their PD which is good 3-4 years away. So my argument is there are three interest groups here

    1) EB2
    2) Eb3 prior to 2004
    3) Eb3 2004 onwards.





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  • amitjoey
    07-11 07:15 PM
    Is it ok to send faxes? and is there a format that lot of people are using or its personal story for every one?

    cheers

    I talked to a staff member at senator Barbara's office, and the staff member said, Faxes and emails are responded and replied by staff reps. Only written (typed) letters go to Senator's attention. She also advised me that if this is something you need the senators attention on, do not send fax or email, send a letter with postage paid.
    I explained to her the visa -flip flop, and she said most likely the senator will read and send an inquiry, The senator is very good at responding to letters from constituents.
    That is exactly why we need to send them letters, please look at the format and add some personal details, gives it a little personal touch.





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  • caydee
    06-14 02:19 PM
    Why can't you search for preapproved labor to file I485 quickly?

    Your suggestion surprises me.





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  • NolaIndian32
    04-09 08:15 AM
    I know , I can not walk 10 miles (Army 10 miles, Washington DC)- forget running.:) Can I still be part of this?
    I think, apart from running and walking 10 miles I am able to involve myself doing other expected activities. In my life time I have not walked 10 miles:)..Man, you guys are tough.

    Note: I may be able to walk 2 miles.

    BharatPremi,

    Thanks so much for your support. Yes you can join Team IV and we would love to coordinate a 5k event for you. Please see the PM I just sent you. I look forward to hearing from you.

    -Nola



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  • ilwaiting
    04-09 11:30 AM
    The fact is it looks like you don't seem to understand the magnitute of problem as logiclife is trying to put forth. Its not the question of 10% or 25%. If this law passes, It would be hard to get hired by a prospective employer, transfer or extend your H1B, As they would back off from employing H1B's. So no Microsoft or IBM would be willing to spend time trying to prove that they need people on H1B. Not just Hi-tech sector but this law would affect each and everyone who is currently on H1B or who are trying to get on to H1B. It would be stupid to think that once everyone one is gone, you could pick those left behind because these jobs would start moving out of the country in a much larger scale than you could imagine.


    This is actually a very good idea. Maybe not 10% even 25% is fine.
    This way microsoft, oracle etc. can get their workers.
    Even Deloitte, PWC they hire americans and pay you when you're on bench.
    Unlike most indian consulting companies, which don't pay you when you're on bench and make you lie on your resume.





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  • sravani
    05-16 01:10 PM
    Thanks sravani,

    So will the doctor still give me a report even if I don't complete all medical exams?

    Also on a side note, Do you know how long does it take to get the report once the tests are done?

    Thanks

    Yup. The doctor will give you a report with a note in a sealed envelope and you can submit that document when you apply for your 485.

    For me, the physician took 3 days for the report. It depends on the physician I guess, but usually it will not take more than a week to get the report.

    Good luck to you!



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  • dionysus
    06-13 11:15 PM
    Well it is worse than you thought.

    People who haven't even started their green card process yet can buy a labor from any bodyshop, use it to file their 140 and 485 concurrently and get a foothold in the great american GC mela. Howzaat.


    Years we have been told priority date establishes your place in the queue.

    We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.

    Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.

    People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.

    Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.

    Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.





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  • spicy_guy
    07-11 11:23 PM
    Having said that, this will be the right time to purse this agenda...Many of the folks suggested, counting date for citizenship from I-485 receipt date or I-140 receipt date. If you google 'Backdate GC', we can see that many other folks in murthy, rajiv khanna forums are also talking about this. So, we might have enough members to pursue this further. Many of us have been here close to 10 years (Me from 2000 on F1, OPT, H1B etc). Its only fair to have some of those years counted towards citizenship.

    Pappu, IV leadership,

    Please let us know how to proceed further on this...

    Yes, I like this one too and posted about this a few times. We can take this agenda forward. I think we'll have a lot of supporters...

    This might already be in IV's agenda. Pappu? Can you shed some light in this matter?



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  • sanju
    05-15 11:13 AM
    Hi All,

    After a long wait i have my priority date became current. But my employer is saying to wait for some more time before he can file for I485.What can i do in this scenario? He is saying the dates are going to remian the same for next couple of months.Please suggest.

    Thanks!

    Please post the name of your company. I would request IV to setup a webfax so that all of us can send webfaxes to such employers to stop this exploitation. The copy of the webfax should also be sent to DOL and USCIS (with the name of such companies) each time it is sent to the company. We should jam the fax machine of DOL, USCIS and such companies. If we do this to 5-10 employers, all others will behave.





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  • indianabacklog
    06-23 08:49 PM
    Hello Susie,
    My daughter accompanied me on H4 visa. My labor was approved in June 2006 and she turned 21 in July 2006. My I 140 was approved in Dec 2006. I have received valuable inputs from IV members and understand that she has aged out. I believe that things can be simplified if unmarried children under 21 who come as dependants of workers with dual intent visas or similar catagories are exempt from ageing out rules. This may avoid lengthy rules, computations, complex interpretations and possibly lawsuits.

    I would be most interested to see the evidence supporting your statement and the information you have received from IV members. Since in one breath you are saying your daughter has aged out and in the next you are suggesting she is exempt from aging out rules???



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-12 03:54 PM
    If you trust IV Core and its advisory board and believe that they know how politics works better than you and me you are entitled to your opinion and you may be right too. Certainly IV Core knows how political work, there is no denying that but my point of contention is that does what ICV Core believe and are working towards match with what is good for EB3?
    And there as the bard would say lies the rub

    Now again in response to that you and most of the people would agree that IV Core goals is good for EB3. Now out of all the people who agree how many are EB3 and how many are EB2. Again IV Core would say many EB3 agree with what they do because IV is not about helping anyone, IV is about helping yourselves (EB3 or EB2), and when it comes to the fact of helping ourselves i for one feel that IV core would do better to listen to the EB3 voice out there. Why do i feel EB3 specific voice is not being heard? Well the answer to that is very simple. It is because EB3 as a whole has NOT seen any benefit out of the rule changes which happened till now and any new initiative which gets the support of IV.

    As to your statement about below
    The idea you preferred has no chance, given the harsh economic situation and anti-immigration sentiment at this time
    My commnts to that is that YES it is a harsh economic situation and YES anti immigrants sentiments is on the rise but if i am an an anti immigrant i would oppose immigrants as a whole. I would not oppose EB2 immigrants less because they have MS degrees and i would not oppose EB3 less because they are stuck in the immigration process and harsh economics time is harsh for everyone (EB2 and EB3) and also citizens so the same logic of anti immigranst sentiments would apply

    Reagrding your another statement
    In this case, EB3 will have to wait forever. Now, which one do you like? I think people should be realistic.
    What i like is not what is important. What is important is what is done is the right thing., If it is the question of EB3 waiting fore ever (say 10 years) or EB3 waiting more than forever (say 20 years) i would plum for which ever option gives relief to people (even if it extends my GC wait time) who are of older priority date and who should get relief, not because they have waited for so long but because they waited for so long in the line and followed all the rules and it is just mind blowing that people who have applied for GC in 2008 and 2010 and expecting that they deserve to get GC because they are EB2 and no other reason.

    Now to that all EB2 guys will reply back saying Are you nuts, that how the world works, if you want a GC sooner get a US degree or apply in EB2 no one is stopping you and all that kinds of statements. It gets ugly too but what everyone forgets is that it is easier to be sanctimonious and give advise when you are not being effected. When you are at the other end (Remember the bottom of the totem pole) that is when you all these things come back to bite you and you cannot justify what you said earlier.

    Think about it illegals want GC for everyone illegal. Legals (including IV Core among others) say we are fighting for all EB and are united but when an EB2 with 2007 priority date gets GC but an EB3 32002 is still waiting all that argument falls by the wayside and there is no unity

    Ok if IV Core (And when i say IV Core i mean everyone EB2 and EB3 peiople because IV Core is nothing but the EB applicants themselves) cannot or will not try to work towards fixing the dispension of spillover visas to EB2 and EB3 equally because that is the law and the law cannot change why cannot IV Core try to implement (the keyword here is TRY whether the law pases or not is not the point) the 55 K DV to all retrogressed applicants instead of just US MS applicants. They can try to do that but they are not. So in what way is IV a representative of EB3 apprehensions and issues





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  • eb3retro
    07-13 03:59 PM
    if i know this correctly, there are only 3000+ visa's (green cards)available for eb3 india and there are atleast 8000 people waiting in 2002. a person with a pd of mid 2002 also may need to wait atleast 2- 2 1/2 years before he/she gets their green card.

    For you and me isnt it < 1year?

    485 Inventory (http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Green%20Card/Green%20Card%20Through%20a%20Job/Employment%20Based%20I-485%20Pending%20Inventory%20as%20of%20May%2027%202 010.pdf)

    going by using unused visa from worldwide allocation within the category ie eb3 for 2011 year, 42.6k visas will help clearing off 9356 peinding cases till Jan 2003?
    Am I missing anything?
    Why eb2 were processed with 7K cases worldwide and only 700 for eb3 worldwide?
    If 42600 / 4 = 10650 cases can be processed per quarter in eb3 , why only 700 were processed?



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  • ksircar
    08-02 01:11 PM
    Stop posting untrue post and misleading people.

    The thread mentioned by you is not a donor thread. All donor threads have (donor) written before them. At this time there are zero donor threads. If we have to post an update that cannot be made public we would create a donor thread. At this time there are no donor threads.

    I cannot see it either. Even after looging in, it won't allow to access the thread,





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  • GCard_Dream
    07-11 05:31 PM
    I think you are right. I don't think the exacutive privilege would apply here. What we have here is clearly a big mess created by imcompetence of USCIS and congress has the oversight power over government agencies to make sure that they are functioning properly and according to law. I would love to see USCIS get nailed for this mess. They have gotten away with pretty much anyting in republican congress.

    They didnt provide docs for the US attorney firings because Bush cited "Executive privilege" ... there is no such "privilege" in this case .... Bush hopefully had nothing to do with the DOS/USCIS screwup :)



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  • xela
    03-28 08:09 AM
    So what a wonderful trick,....in April I am current based on the Visa Bulletin, but now their processing has moved backwards to June and that means no luck for all July filers.....what a joke....:(





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  • reddymjm
    07-13 12:39 PM
    You might be greened in SEP 2010.

    Hope it makes SENSE now after seeing the Aug bulliten.



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  • apb
    07-11 08:34 PM
    Potentially 30000 visa wasted?? SJ 14th a must





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  • pappu
    05-17 11:21 PM
    Nice one!
    Hi folks, just as predicted, my email thread to select contacts resulted in one outright racist response. i dont want this group to get distracted or distressed if you too get such responses. take a look at the original note below and my response. remain brave. remain strong. this is a LEGAL immigration process in the US economic interest too.

    hopefully people will begin to realize that anti-legal-immigration is just a facade for deep rooted racism.

    Best.

    A SELF AVOWED RACIST RESPONSE from A PERSONAL CONTACT
    I have to let you know that not only will I not support this bill, but I am vehemently against the legal immigration of workers that are originally brought here to usurp positions that would have otherwise been held by skilled Americans. I agree that this is a racist and exclusionary position, but I also know many people who can no longer get work at the level they deserve due to the displacement they have experienced as a result of this foreign worker influx.

    Please remove me from any future posts regarding this or related issues.

    MY RESPONSE
    i know how the native americans must have felt when the pilgrims landed... oh that darned foreign influx.

    i will not dignify your self avowed racism with the erudition of economics, capitalism, innovation, globalization, human rights or the rich history of the united states as a melting pot of cultures ... all of which are underpinning factors that are in the long term US economic interests in high skilled LEGAL immigration. of course, these tend to be conveniently ignored on the altar of superficial sentiment, myopic protectionism and deep-rooted xenophobia.

    it would be best that we not be on each others' personal contacts or have any future interaction at all.





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  • sandy_anand
    05-03 05:04 PM
    Some porter gave me red on this post.

    Or on second thoughts, they must have clicked it by mistake...





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